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Poster: Paul Rennix Date: Nov 1, 2003 10:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Can I get a report on a failed flac upload? Here's how

the same thing just happened to me, but I got no email reporting which files failed...

I sure don't feel like upping the entire show again. Why isn't this report available in the contributions center?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 1, 2003 11:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Can I get a report on a failed flac upload? Here's how

the same thing just happened to me, but I got no email reporting which files failed...

Hmm, you're saying you *did* upload a whole-file .md5 along with a set of flac files but didn't get an email? Perhaps it's actually an email problem then...

At my level I can't match patron IDs and emails to help troubleshoot. There's at least one hotmail address in the contribution queue having an md5 failure for a show. I know hotmail can filter even wanted automated messages to a spam box. If that's you, check a spam box?

Perhaps write the contact address etree @archive org and cc me at hamilton @umbc edu (unmung those addresses) to see about further troublehsooting. Make it's clear it's you = ColoradoPaul. Thanks!

I sure don't feel like upping the entire show again.

Once figured out, you should only have to reupload the particular failing tracks. The good ones are already on site. :)

Why isn't this report available in the contributions center?

This is v.1 of the website. Jon is working very hard on v.2 which I bet will be much cooler (though I don't know any specifics).

Diana

This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-11-02 07:11:02

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Poster: Paul Rennix Date: Nov 1, 2003 11:20pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Can I get a report on a failed flac upload? Here's how

no, I sent a flac fingerprint in the text file... BUT - what I did was exactly the same as what I did the day before with another upload - I upped an upper level directory which contained 3 lower level directories (one for each disk) and the text fiile in the upper level directory contained the flac fingerprint.

Why would it work one way one day, and a different way the next? I thought one of the great advantages of flac was no more md5s? I've NEVER made a whole file md5 before for flac, so now I'm especially confused. How do you even do that?

the file I upped the day before was the km254 source of ymsb2003-10-02AUD.flac - check it out, there is no md5. the next day, I went to upload the same show, soundboard source..... and no go.

It's looking to me like maybe one of the song files failed, but I got no email telling me which one so here I sit in the forum guessing. An hour or so ago I resubmitted the fileset for verification hoping for an email this time around, and again nodda....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 2, 2003 12:49am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Can I get a report on a failed flac upload? Here's how

Ok, so you're saying you did not follow the tips I posted Erich and so you didn't get the heads up that those tips will produce here. If you follow what I specified, you will not be left guessing.

Here's how it works with this system at archive.org right now:

1) When the system sees an .md5, the software will run through a check using that file, attempting to verify whatever files are listed in the .md5 "packing list". It will send an email based on the results of that check.

2) When the system sees a .flac file, the system will launch separate software to do the flac testing on any .flac. It is not set up at this time to send an email based on those results,. but it will report that there has been failure(s) for the fileset. So you know something failed, but you don't get an email to know what failed.

3) Flac fingerprint.txt output is very useful as IDs for humans to look at, but are not what is used to test flac files. That is true for archive.org or anywhere else. The archive.org system will not perform checks using .txt files (whether there are md5s, ffp output or anything else in there).

4) As I said in the earlier post, I don't care what etree.org says or whoever says about md5s and flacs, for this site a companion .md5 is useful with the flac set you are sending here, for the reasons I've already given. (archive.org is not etree.org is not archive.org...)

On this page are some links for tools that can produce .md5 files for other files: http://userpages.umbc.edu/~hamilton/shnfaq.html I personally like MD5Summer if you have a PC, it's very simple and friendly, a no-brainer.

All you have to do is generate .md5 files for the flacs you still have on HD, then upload them into the correct subfolders to be next to their corresponding .flac files in your upload area.

Finally, the reason the last one worked would be becasue all the filesdid pass the flac check- there was no corruption during any tracks being uploaded. So you got a simple OK on the import page to import them as usual. This time, at least one track failed the flac testing, likely due to a corruption during transfer (it happens- the files are really big.).

Have I explained clearly enough for you to go ahead and follow the tips I gave? If not, let me know what point you may still be having trouble understanding. Thanks!

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Poster: Paul Rennix Date: Nov 2, 2003 1:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Can I get a report on a failed flac upload? Here's how

ok, now I do understand - thanks for the link that program is a nice little tool. Thanks for explaining that, I bet for the tenth time.

Actually, part of what led to my confusion is there is another server that reads the fingerprint info out of the info text file, so I figured this worked the same way.

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